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profdavis
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posted 01-01-2009 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for profdavis   Click Here to Email profdavis     Edit/Delete Message
My recent experience with CS was NOT very good. I live in PA, where you need an appointment and 3 references to buy a bottle of wine. We have Trader Joe's but (because it's PA) they are not allowed to sell alcohol. I recently took a trip to Ohio & was so excited to find "2 Buck Chuck" in their Trader Joe's that I bought a whole case of 2007 Shiraz. I'm not a wine snob but this stuff was so PUTRID that my girlfriend and I could not manage to choke down a glass . . . let alone a bottle. I don't know if it was a bad bottle (or a bad year) but this stuff tasted like old grape juice that someone had left in the refrigerator for a few years. After this experience, I am hesitant to give Chuck a second try . . . if I do, it won't be by the case! Does anyone have any suggestions on which years/varieties of CS are actually drinkable?

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hrstruggle
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posted 12-10-2006 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hrstruggle   Click Here to Email hrstruggle     Edit/Delete Message
I have a 1/2 case of the CS Merlot leftover from a function I put on this evening and I was planning on just saving the rest for the same function next year.

Does the 2BC age well at all or will it be close to vinegar by then?

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normancox
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posted 11-17-2006 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for normancox     Edit/Delete Message
Charles Shaw 2006 Nouveau Gamay Beaujolais Valdiguie. Pulled the cork from a chilled bottle on the Third Thursday of November just as if it were the real $8.99 Debeouf version. This $2BC not as good as last year's. On a scale of one to five, a weak 3. Seemed to improve a bit when it wasn't so chilled. Won't be serving it to friends. Perfect for me and my canned tuna salad. After my case is gone, in a few months, I might buy a single to retry as I noticed $2BC can vary from bottling date to date. Sip don't gulp. Still glad that Chas Shaw is trying to give us a low cost, every day type of wine.

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normancox
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posted 11-13-2006 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for normancox     Edit/Delete Message
Charles Shaw 2006 Nouveau Gamay Beajuloais Valdiguie. I have been making a pest of myself at the local TJ's asking when this wine is to arrive. Found a couple of cases buried under a stack of Merlots. If the release of this wine to tie in with the release of the French version sometime towards the end of November, then I guess I am not supposed to have it. A traditionalist, I wlll put it aside and drink it on the same date the Debeouf? stuff is released. Will post an amateur's impressions then.

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DCT
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posted 10-10-2006 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DCT   Click Here to Email DCT     Edit/Delete Message
Let's get past the snobbery. Wine is to be enjoyed. If you like it, it's good wine, if you don't like it, don't drink it.

Who gives a damn what the price or score is. Geez, where's the scores on carrots? If you like 'em, eat 'em, if you don't, leave 'em for the rabbits.

Two Buck Chuck has done as much for the wine industry as any highly rated Parker wine... probably more because it's more accessible and affordable by the masses.

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cheapliscious
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posted 08-26-2006 12:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi,
I'm a Viticulture Major at Cal Poly, and a member of the winemaking/tasting club on campus , Vines to Wines. Many times a year through this club and through private outings with friends, I attend wine tastings at local shops and renowned wineries throughout the Central Coast's premier wine growing region.
Like a lot of college kids, I don't want to spend a lot of money when I'm looking for a decent bottle of wine to enjoy with dinner -- I picked up a few bottles of th CS Syrah for my girlfriend and I to enjoy over a romantic dinner last night, and I was pretty impressed with it. So I googled it tonight to see what people were saying.
I think that most people's perception of a wines quality lacks a great deal of knowledge, and therefore can be influenced by just about anything......price for instance, and descriptive comments that are made about wines by "experts".
Any red wine can be described as having a "slightly smokey flavor, and hints of currents and black cherries." But the true test is if you like the taste and find it compatable with whatever you are enjoying it with.
I find it pretty humorous that most of the comments on this page include something like, "this wine is ok to drink, but it's not nearly as good as my $30 bottles that I'm cellaring." This just shows that these people, like most people who are just discovering how enjoyable wine drinking can be, have no idea what they are talking about -- and rely on a relationship between price and quality that is assumed to be there because, "experts priced the wine, right."
My girlfriend and myself enjoyed our dinner last night, and the wine from CS was a delicious pairing.
My advice is to everyone is drink what tastes good. If you like a boxed wine with a pizza and salad, drink it -- the wine industry is becoming very advanced, very quickly -- and in my opinion, you have more of a chance of being disappointed with your wine choice if you buy a decent bottle for $12.99 and aren't very impressed than if you buy a bottle of CS for $1.99 and are pleasantly surprized by modern wine's drinkability.
In a final word of caution: don't be so gullible when it comes to wine descisions, make up your own mind........If I describe to you a piece of cow shit as tasting like a chocolate-chip cookie -- you're probably not going to pay me for that cow poop and dunk it in milk.........think about it.

-John
newmancollege@juno.com

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waterfall
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posted 07-06-2006 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waterfall     Edit/Delete Message
I live in Redondo Beach where 2 Buck Chuck is actually 2 bucks - $1.99 at Trader Joe's down the street. This is definitely a great everyday drinking wine. I am a contract business consultant from the Northwest and live with another contract professional working in aerospace. Price points for wine is not an issue...but we found 2BC and it was all over. We each drink at least bottle and a half a night. If red wine is good for your heart, I must have the ticker of a marathon runner. I have a collection of wine that could hold it's own against the best. I pass on my reserve collection nightly and let the 2BC flow like water. I sleep like a baby and wake up feeling like a new man each day. Ready to go solve some real problems. Thanks Charles Shaw, see you tonight!

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captainhappy
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posted 06-30-2006 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for captainhappy   Click Here to Email captainhappy     Edit/Delete Message
I'll admit I'm a snob! I would serve the chuck wine... to folks that would drink anything for a buzz and not for taste. In the past, I've opened mature, great and expensive wines for people who couldn't tell the difference. They just got drunk and/or enjoyed the company that they didn't 'taste' or appreciate what they were drinking, they gulped and that was disappointing (and they were even Europeans in NYC!?). Viva la Difference!

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Bob Foster
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posted 03-02-2006 05:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I live in Virginia and these wines cost us $3.29 a bottle. They are not blockbusters, but they are much better than a lot of the overpriced junk I've had from Italy, France and Spain. I wouldn't serve them to impress, but for everyday drinking they can't be beat. The Cab is OK, but the Shiraz is surprisingly smooth, easy to drink and it does not require lenghty breathing to be palatable. I cheer the advent of decent wines at an afforable price. Lets hear it for the wine glut!

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Gene Snyder
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posted 02-20-2006 03:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I live about 35 minutes from Trader Joes in Westfield, but do make the trek for this wine. I am an avid wine collector and drinker. Charles Shaw wine is a good wine for the value. Of course, it is not a Opus One, but great if you just want a reasonably priced wine for every day (or every other day) consumption. Enjoy.

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bigsemi
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posted 01-30-2006 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigsemi   Click Here to Email bigsemi     Edit/Delete Message
Well I commited maybe the ultimate sin, I decanted a bottle of 2BC Cab last night through my Rojaus decanter, and it did help. Not bad for $2.99

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syrah girl
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posted 01-28-2006 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for syrah girl     Edit/Delete Message
What kind did you buy for the party? My husband buys CS by the case, the Merlot seems to be the best. I have tasted it, and it's not too bad, but would never consider drinking it with a meal. (He has a small glass each night for medicinal purposes for his heart.)

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Jackers
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posted 01-27-2006 07:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message
My wife and I served Charles Shaw wine at a very large arty we had. We bought two cases and spent about $75.00. We were surprised at our friends and relatives reaction. All of them thought we have spent a fortune on wine. We let them in on our secret and they have all been converted to Charles Shaw wine.

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stevenjan
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posted 01-21-2006 05:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I live in Ca. in the high desert and we don't have a Trader Joe's or a World Food Market etc. when I go to the Valley I try to stop at one or both. I occasionally purchase TBC and we have tried most. last year(2005) I purhased their Gamay Beaujolais and I really enjoyed it. I didn't go back for a couple of weeks to get some more (we found it to be a delightfully light wine---very tasty). When I got there(TJ) they had sold out and they would not have anymore util next year.I went back this year and bought more. It wasn't quite the same but still an enjoyable wine. It's funny I had bought the merlot a couple of years back after reading of the health benefits for Diabetics and enjoyed the TBC @ TJ'S. My wife and I went on a cruise and decided to have a bottle of Merlot and put it in reserve for our dinners. The first bottle we tried was swill very tangy(read sour) and we tried another bottle $20.00 and it was acceptable but still not as good as TBC merlot---go figure.I don't care for the Shiraz although it has been an award winning wine for CHARLES SHAW ---look it up. We enjoy the Cabernet,Merlot and especially the Gamay beaujolais MAYBE JUST THE LATEST VINTAGE--I don't know.

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stevenjan
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posted 01-21-2006 05:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I live in Ca. in the high desert and we don't have a Trader Joe's or a World Food Market etc. when I go to the Valley I try to stop at one or both. I occasionally purchase TBC and we have tried most. last year(2005) I purhased their Gamay Beaujolais and I really enjoyed it. I didn't go back for a couple of weeks to get some more because we found it to be a delightfully light wine---very tasty. When I got there(TJ) they had sold out and they would not have anymore util next year.I went back this year and bought more. It wasn't quite the same but still an enjoyable wine. It's funny I had bought the merlot a couple of years back after reading of the health benefits for Diabetics and enjoyed the TBC @ TJ'S. My wife and I went on a cruise and decided to have a bottle of Merlot and put it in reserve for our dinners. The first bottle we tried was swill very tangy(read sour) and we tried another bottle $20.00 and it was acceptable but still not as good as TBC merlot---go figure.I don't care for the Shiraz although it has been an award winning wine for CHARLES SHAW ---look it up. We enjoy the Cabernet,Merlot and especially the Gamay beaujolais MAYBE JUST THE LATEST VINTAGE--I don't know.

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RockyMtnRick
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posted 01-17-2006 07:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Here is another "two bucks:" I'm not "poor," nor am I an expert on wines. I do, however, find 2BC reds drinkable and within the budget of those of us who like wine, but wince at downing $15-30+ every day. Isn't there a place for guilt-free wine consumption for the "everyman/woman"?? No--these wines don't match the high-dollar cabs, etc., in my basement, but I'm not cooking up $40 of groceries every night, either. I can open a 2BC without a second thought, enjoy a glass or two (or more), and still find money in the bank account for my next trip to Napa to taste the work of other craftspersons. My thanks to Trader Joes.

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fastfred
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posted 01-14-2006 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastfred     Edit/Delete Message
To me, 2BC Chardonnay tastes a little diluted. I must wonder, though, is this attribute reserved for 2 dollar wine? Would taking this wine to a dinner-party be such a faux pas if it were not in a bottle easily identified as "cheap?" Would a more expensive bottle of similar tasting wine be so quickly rejected? I'll bet producers do unload excess capacity (of various qualities) to places like Charles Shaw to sell for pennies. I'll also bet the same producers sell well marketed, lower quality wines for premium prices. I'd only be embarrassed if I brought one of these higher priced, lower quality, "Bud Light" varieties to a dinner party.

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Sammy Joe
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posted 01-07-2006 09:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message
As we speak I'm trying the Sauvignon Blanc. I wasn't thrilled with the taste (although it is not bad AT ALL for $3.00 here in Chicago), but the texture is amazing. Very creamy and smooth.
For $3.00 a bottle, I don't care how snobby you are, this is one of the best table/casual wines you can buy.

**random info: best wine I've ever tried: from New Zealand's Hawke's Bay region, Esk Valley 2004 Reisling. I don't think it's available yet in the states.

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wineman38
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posted 01-03-2006 04:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Does anyone know if the $1.99 Charles Shaw wine can be sold to any resellers other than Trader Joes? If so, who would I contact? I couldn't find a Charles Shaw website.

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Fire76
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posted 12-23-2005 04:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message
It's funny to see people argue over a $1.99 bottle of wine. I've bought a few bottles for $3.49 in Cleveland, and have not been let down. Anyone that thinks this wine will compares to a more expensive wine might be a little "slow", and shouldn't drink any wine. I stick with the old "you get what you pay for" theory. I don't expect to bring this to a party of connoisseurs and get rave reviews. But at the same time I wouldn't bring a $20 zin to a party full of college kids. The 2BC has it's place in the market. I use it alot to cook with. There are definitely better wines on the market. But for anyone that says this wine is sewer water forgets about, or hasn't tried Boone's Farm

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notawhineywino
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posted 12-11-2005 01:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message
AHHHHH, TwoBuckChuck Merlot...those Napa Valley $20 to $30 bottled Merlots had best be afraid...be very afraid...as TBC is whacking 'em left and right when it comes to flavor, aroma and, mainly, price. It's a tasty, aromatic, goes-with-most-anything wine that is well worth buying a case and enjoying it whenever you want.

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Eastcoastgal
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posted 11-26-2005 06:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I was appalled when I tasted the chardonnay-it tasted like pure alcohol,no substance at all. Reminded me of some moonshine I drank in Kentucky. What was more offensive was that the wine was brought to my home for a holiday family get-together to share with loved ones. They brought six bottles. At 2.99 each, I'd rather they brought one or two better bottles than six (although we haven't opened up some) CS.

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Doubting Thomas
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posted 11-19-2005 06:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I just recieved a bottle of Charles Shaw to try.....I will report back with my comments in a few days.

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bags
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posted 10-26-2005 06:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I stopped drinking 2 Buck Chuck a while ago, but on a recent visit to Trader Joe's (and at a nadir in my cash flow), I picked up 2 bottles each of Sauvignon Blanc and Shiraz. Until then, I had only tried the Chardonay and Cabernet. Today, I went back to get a case each more, (alas the S. Blanc was gone). I didn't realize the consistency varied and the maker sold other brands. I thought I read an article in the Economist about 2BC's quality control and consistency(?) My point is that anybody that thinks this wine is swill does not know anything about wine (and is probably a snob like JLove).

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beckala
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posted 09-27-2005 07:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I won't drink the Chardonnay as I find it harsh and undrinkable. I do use the merlot and cabs for Sangria, but won't drink it straight.

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oranjesym
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posted 09-24-2005 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oranjesym     Edit/Delete Message
High brows, beware! I drink wine across the country, am not an expert, just love what I like, and I like this wine, preferably the cabernet and shiraz. Don't like it? Pay more and enjoy others. For me, this wine works best most often.

Message to Southern Wisconsin writer, try Trader Joe's (not the enemy, thank goodness) in Chicago. There is one on Lincoln Avenue and Grace, a block north of Addison, easy to get to from 94. Can't miss it. They're open late daily. Join us other "low-brows" there, enjoying our 3-buck Chuck!! THere are lots of us!

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oranjesym
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posted 09-24-2005 08:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message
High brows, beware! I drink wine across the country, am not an expert, just love what I like, and I like this wine, preferably the cabernet and shiraz. Don't like it? Pay more and enjoy. For me, this wine works best.

Southern Wisconsin, try Trader Joe's (not the enemy, thank goodness) in Chicago. There is one on Lincoln Avenue and Grace, a block north of Addison, easy to get to from 94. Can't miss it. They're open late daily. Join us other "low-brows" there, enjoying our 3-buck Chuck!! THere are lots of us!

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Mr. Entartete
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posted 09-20-2005 06:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message
This swill is not even worth cooking with. Traper John's is the enemy!

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wisconsin coffee
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posted 09-19-2005 09:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message
We are in southeastern Wisconsin -can we buy Charles Shaw Wine anywhere close by?

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blah
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posted 09-16-2005 04:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message
And anyway, in Chicago it's 3 buck Chuck, not 2...

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Buster
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posted 08-20-2005 10:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message
JLove, don't kid yourself. You're a snob.

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JLove
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posted 08-05-2005 04:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Seriously, I wouldn't wash my car with this stuff. I can't even call it wine. These other posts are making me laugh with their explicit details of the taste.
I traveled 1500 miles to Chicago to see a friend and she served me "2 Buck Chuck". I'm not snobby, but I'm not traveling to see that friend anymore if that's how I'm treated!
Good food and cheap wine that is watered down? I'd rather go hungry.

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Napa Old World Inn
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posted 06-24-2005 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Napa Old World Inn     Edit/Delete Message
Great info, John!

Thanks-- I will share this with other innkeepers.

-Russ Herschelmann
Innkeeper
Napa Old World Inn
(and President of the Napa Bed & Breakfast Inns organization)

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john olney
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posted 06-24-2005 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for john olney   Click Here to Email john olney     Edit/Delete Message
Back in 1987 I produced a wine label poster-map containing 85 NV labels. It included the original Charles Shaw Label.

In 1973, the family sold the Franzia Brothers Winery to the Coca Cola Company of New York. To avoid any conflict of interest, Fred Franzia, his brother, Joseph (Joe) and cousin John, severed ties with their fathers, as they moved only a few miles away from their former business association, and opened their own negociant wine business dealing jug and carafe wine sales.

They built JFJ Bronco Winery, the initials coming from each of their names. They bought wine on the open market, and brought it to their winery where they blended, bottled and cellared their products until they were ready for distribution.

Being clever as they are, they stared buyiong the labels of NV wineries that went broke. The concept was to sell ordinary wine under a known label associated to wonderful NV. The ordinary wine was going to be from grapes grown anywhere with little to no expensive NV contribution.

In all, they purchased six such labels: Napa Ridge (from Beringer), Rutherford Vintners (site now known as Rutherford Grove), Quail Ridge and Domaine Napa (both formerly located at site now known as Esquisse winery), Charles Shaw (site now known as Benessere) and the sixth is cited below.
It so happens, all six are on my poster-map!

They are about to release Cab. Sauv. from NV grapes at the price of $3.99/btl using their sixth NV label-Napa Creek.

Bronco just lost court battle using these NV labels with anything but NV grapes, so they putting NV grapes in the bottle and selling it cheap, cheap, cheap.

Things are just warming up in the valley and I don't mean because of summer!!!!! $3.99 CS that tastes decent comparied to all the other CS and their prices should be good fodder for future forum talkers!!!

[This message has been edited by john olney (edited 06-24-2005).]

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rorme
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posted 06-08-2005 12:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message
The Merlot is very good. The cab is not

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A 2BC Fan
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posted 06-03-2005 03:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message
We bought 10 cases of 2001 2BC Cabernet before leaving the San Francisco Bay Area and heading to the east coast.

Sadly, we only have a couple cases left. It truly has aged well in such a short time (6/2005). We now rate it in the $7 to $11 comparative range, as do several whom we have shared it with.

At 20+ years it may or may not have improved, but hey, it will probably be worth more as nostalgia by then, if we can refrain from drinking any more.

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Richard/PA
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posted 02-22-2005 02:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Bronco wines -- the maker of Two Buck Chuck -- is owned by someone named Franzia, but the family sold the box wine business some years back. The Franzia box wine is unrelated to Bronco wines.

FYI there is an article on Mr. Franzia and "two buck Chuck" in the 22 Feb 2005 Wall Street Journal.

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trifle
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posted 01-24-2005 02:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message

I have to agree about the Charles Shaw Gamay Beaujolais. It tastes like wine-flavored water.

Thanks, whidbey--I was feeling guilty about my urge to pour it down the sink, but it's not even fit to cook with, so down it goes.

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California
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posted 01-07-2005 10:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I have always trusted the good, cheap, 2BC Merlot, but decided to try something new. I bought a bottle of the Gamay Beaujolais, but forgot that I had it. A month later, I opened it, thinking it was the Merlot. To begin with, it stunk!!! You can already imagine what the aroma does to the taste, which was equally unpleasant. Stick to the Merlot!

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Berwyn_IL_Guy
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posted 12-31-2004 02:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I love the Shiraz!

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