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yesilovewine
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posted 10-28-2010 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Well Hawkeye, I hope you have a good trip back.
Kokomo would have been the Quanset Hut structure ( hard to miss) and Peterson is actually way to the right as you stand in the parking lot facing away from Dry Creek Rd.
I understand that "tunnel vision" syndrome quite well...I live with that myself. And, when you have spent so much time planning and organizing a trip its hard to see outside the box of the agenda sometimes...and it may be just as well- Heaven knows that those distractions have sent us off our schedule in a big way on occasion!!! That is one of the reasons that we don't try to make appointments.
Dashe is a name I recall from our last visit, but I can't recall the context. I am fairly certain we haven't tasted them, but perhaps someone was recommending them to us. Looking forward to all the scoop on your trip. And for the record, I'm working on figuring out the 'secret winery'

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Hawkeye
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posted 10-27-2010 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Yesilovewine,

There must be more right there than we found. I think it is in the same location as Family Wines, but we sure didn't see it. I get focused on something and that is all I can see. My wife says I have tunnel vision. She also says I can't move anything to find something . . . probably all true.

In other words, no we didn't visit Peterson or Kokomo.

We have know Shaun, the host, Family for a few years. Sometimes he is there and sometimes at the other store around Kenwood, further down toward Sonoma.

At Family, Shaun has some decent wines, but I thought the best of the whole bunch were two of the Dashe Zins.

I will have more on my trip, probably after I get home this weekend.

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yesilovewine
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posted 10-27-2010 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Cabgirl-
We like Williamson wines very much, but haven't been to the tasting room yet.
I found my notes- the Harvest Fair Pinot was from Sunce: '09 Russian River Valley Zora's Estate Vyd Reserve. Listed price $44
I found my tasting book from last year's Harvest Fair, too, and see that we also tried one then: Hook and Ladder '06 Third Alarm, Russian River Valley Estate Reserve, which I deemed Very good... however judging from the writing it may have been late in the day! :}
Its the only one that I noted in my book, so it must have been the only one I would consider drinking. price listed was $35.
Hawkeye, that Family Wineries location,on Dry Creek Road... I think Peterson and Kokomo are located there, too aren't they? Did you visit either of those?


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Hawkeye
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posted 10-27-2010 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Cabgirl,

On Tuesday, we visited a primarily Pinot winery on Dry Creek road, Papapietro Perry Winery. We tasted 5 of their Pinots. I am not a Pino person, but two of these Pinot's I could easily drink.

The first was the lightest of the two, an '07 Pinot with grapes from the Russian River. Pinot Reports gave it a 93 rating and Wine Spectator a 90. Now, you know I don't go much by other people's ratings, but these, in my opinion were right on.

The second was an '08 Pinot, Russian River, Leras Family Vineyard. This was my favorite of the two with bright cherries. Again, Pinot Report a 93 and Wine Spectator 92.

If I remember correctly, they were all in the $49.00 range

The others we tasted were rated from 91 to 94, but they weren't my cup of tea . . . whoops, we are not drinking tea, so it should be these were not my cup of Pinot. They were a little on the light side for me. Anyway, if you like Pinot, this is the place to go and it is right across the drive from the Family Wineries tasting center.

If you like Pinot, these should wet your whistle!

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cabgirl
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posted 10-27-2010 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cabgirl     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the suggestions "yesilovewine" on Pinot. I was recently at Williamson Wines and LOVED their Pinot. Their tasting list showed both their Pinots as sold out, but they rummaged in the back and pulled some out for our group.

We tasted the Passion Pinot Noir. The first whiff I got of this was burnt caramel, on the 2nd whiff - syrup, black pepper, and cherry. It was extremely good.

Then they had us taste the wine with a pairing of Irish cheddar topped with truffle salt - Simply delicious.

I have more tasting notes coming from this winery!

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yesilovewine
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posted 10-16-2010 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Cabgirl.
I see this is pretty old, but perhaps you are keeping an eye on this thread.
Pinot...not one of our favorites. It is too light and tends to always taste, to me, like something is missing. For me, the problem is that Pinot can't really be consumed "on its own"; its not a wine that I would ever just open a bottle and sit on the porch or in front of the fire to enjoy, it HAS to have food to really appreciated by this kid so its hard to find one at a general tasting.
However, it is sometimes included as the red in one of our wine club shipments. Recently we had a Ledson Pinot that was pretty good- I think it was the '07 Sonoma Valley. And we have had one from Blackstone ( of all places) that was pretty good.
At Harvest Fair, we did try one Pinot, the Best in Class for the over 39.99 and it was quite good. For the life of me I can't recall who made it right this minute, but it was much richer than Pinots that I am used to.
However, if we don't have to stick with California Pinots, then probably Oregon would be a good place to look. We have had Dobbes, Duck Pond and Willakenzie that we felt we would actually order with a meal, if we couldn't find another red that would be a good match. The Willakenzie would be my preference.

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cabgirl
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posted 08-11-2010 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cabgirl     Edit/Delete Message
They were only pouring their recent releases which was their 08 Chardonnay and 07 Cabernet Sauvignon. I wasn't impressed with the latter. It definitely could have used some more downtime in the cellar. Typically, with young Cabs I can at least taste the potential of where it might be in 5 or 10 years. I did not feel or taste this was the case with the Fantesca Cab.

But their Chard...wow...I'll be writing about that in the other thread on "taste any good wines" lately.

Back to Pinot though. I racked my brain the other night and recalled that I used to really like the Pinot Noirs from Navarro Winery in Mendocino. So I'll have to try them again before I completely swear the varietal off my tasting list!

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damombo
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posted 08-09-2010 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for damombo   Click Here to Email damombo     Edit/Delete Message
sooo Cabgirl... how was the Fantesca event? Did you get to try the Pinot?

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Hawkeye
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posted 08-06-2010 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
I have had a couple Pinot's that I have liked. One was from Deux Amis in Healdsburg, which we will be visiting again in October. The other was at Girard in Yountville. When tasting Pinot, I don't expect a Cab boldness, but I do want some body to it. I have just become aware of Pinot and will taste it wherever I can. I have been told that the best Pinot's come from the coastal area. Might have to try and get over there sometime.

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cabgirl
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posted 08-06-2010 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cabgirl     Edit/Delete Message
Well this has to be the best coincidence ever! I'm going to an event at Fantesca Winery this weekend. I'll be sure to let you know what I think if they are pouring it.

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damombo
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posted 08-05-2010 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for damombo   Click Here to Email damombo     Edit/Delete Message
I have only found one Pinot that I thought was worth drinking, and I can't afford it. It was at Fantesca and over $100 a bottle. But if someone wants to buy me that bottle, I will certainly enjoy and savor each sip! Every other Pinot we've tried has been too light, and as you said, fluffy for my taste. But that's OK - some folks love 'em, and they are welcome to 'em. I'll just keep exploring all the Zins out there

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cabgirl
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posted 08-05-2010 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cabgirl     Edit/Delete Message
So after reading one of the best blog posts I've read in awhile - see "A Dear Pinot Noir Letter" at http://wblakegray.blogspot.com/2010/07/dear-pinot-noir-letter.html. This guy had some pretty good posts on other topics as well.

Anyways, I have to say I too have been disappointed with Pinots I've tasted in the last year or so. So much so, that I don't even recall the names of the wines. I just recalled being disappointed in the taste and not even bothering to finish the glass. They were either too light and fluffy on the palate or trying to approach something more and just falling flat. If I wanted a bolder or meatier wine, believe me - I wouldn't have asked for a Pinot people.

What's sad is that I didn't even like Pinot when it first came in on the scene. But slowly and surely, after a few tastes here and there, I began to really appreciate Pinot. And it worked well with so many different foods. On top of that, the wine wasn't typically expensive and perfect for a group of friends who had mixed tastes (reds vs. whites). Yes, Pinot had a little niche in my heart.

Sigh... What does everyone else think? Have some Pinot suggestions for me that might change my mind? Or do you tend to agree?

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