� Hyperlinks allowed for WineCountry.com advertisers only.
� Content intended to lead visitors to other specific properties may be edited or deleted.
� Posts we consider inappropriate will be deleted immediately.
  Napa Valley     [all categories]
  Napa Valley - Wineries to Visit
  Tentative Itinerary....please critique/suggest

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Tentative Itinerary....please critique/suggest
damombo
Member
posted 02-05-2011 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for damombo   Click Here to Email damombo     Edit/Delete Message
Fun info - it will take me a while to go through it all... We are still trying to get our fingers and toes thawed out - hard to type with frozen fingers!! Hard to read with frozen brains - hmmmm, perhaps a nice zin with thaw that out

IP: 96.8.187.200

Hawkeye
Member
posted 02-02-2011 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Poohh66
Thanks for the website. I had not seen this one before. I did order the Preiser Kee and look forward to receiving it.

IP: 68.169.189.111

Poohh66
Member
posted 02-01-2011 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poohh66     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guys
You may have seen these before but....here are some articles that I found pretty interesting and informative, so I wanted to share

http://www.sallybernstein.com/beverages/wine/its_time_for_wine.htm

IP: 173.168.214.16

Poohh66
Member
posted 02-01-2011 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poohh66     Edit/Delete Message
Hawkeye, thanks.... I am carefully mapping out our stops, goggle maps is very handing as far as adding various destinations and my mac comes in handy as far as saving those maps
I think I have a couple of days done, still working on some of the other days...
Thanks you ALL for your help.

IP: 173.168.214.16

Hawkeye
Member
posted 02-01-2011 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Poohh66, I am familiar with 3 of the wineries that you mentioned.

Rombauer - On the Silverado Trail, their tasting room is up on the side of the mountain. If I remember correctly, Rombauer was a pilot for the now defunct Braniff Airlines. We have visited the tasting room several times and each time we have left noting that the wines were not to our liking.

Elyse - Several of their wines are rated fairly good. We have visited their tasting room and still have 1 bottle of their 2004 Tietjen vineyard Cabs in our cooler. Other than that, I don't remember much about them.

Hope & Grace - I believe it is a fairly new tasting room on the Yountville strip. You could taste at this one during your Yountville day. We have been there and tasted but, again, did not find their wines to our liking.

In planning, and sometimes I forget this, plan your stops so that you do not have to double back or go from one area to another.

If you are going for Valentine's Day, you do not have a lot of planning time left. Cheers

IP: 68.169.189.111

Poohh66
Member
posted 02-01-2011 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poohh66     Edit/Delete Message
Hey ladies and gent
If it is not too much trouble can anyone tell me anything from personal experience about ....

Hartwell Estate
Rombauer
Rocca
Hill Family Family
Elyse
hope and grace

Still working on this
Thanks

IP: 173.168.214.16

yesilovewine
Member
posted 02-01-2011 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Gee Hawkeye- you're still beating me! How did you EVER honestly taste anything by the end of a 20-stop day????:0

IP: 98.232.221.183

RC456
Member
posted 01-31-2011 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RC456     Edit/Delete Message
Poohh66,

Welcome! I am fairly new around here as well. I will go a little different route with thoughts and ideas, since Hawkeye has laid out such a great plan already.

Just chiming in from Hawkeye's list: Merryvale is a fav of ours (Sauv Blanc & Chards). Jessup & Girard is on our list to visit later this year as well.

Off of your list, we liked the Beringer grounds and tour. For a change of pace, consider going next door to the Culinary Institute of America @ Greystone. We like going there every visit. Pick up a few culinary tools and such, plus they have hour long cooking demos (watch, learn, & taste in a great setting). We are as much foodies as we are wineaux, and really enjoy CIA. Wine Spectator Restaurant is on the north end of the building and very good/reasonable.

Other favorite wineries of ours: Cakebread, Grgich Hills, & Sterling (the veranda view is worth the visit) on Hwy 29, Chateau Montelena in Calistoga (movie Bottle Shock)....great building & grounds. Their Cabs & Chards aren't bad either!

If you are in the Calistoga area looking for eats, we like Brannan's Grill downtown. Another change of pace thing: there is a lady's clothing boutique (Attitudes) across & up the street back toward Hwy 29 that my wife shops (read 'buys' from) every trip....she loves their clothes.

Gott's Roadside (formerly Taylor's Refresher) is always a must stop on Hwy 29 in St Helena for the best shakes, burgers, etc. Unique place & get ready to stand in line!

If you are going to picnic, stop in V Sattui for deli items or across the street at Dean & Deluca's. Heck go to both, we usually do!

There are plenty of great places to eat all up and down, in and around the area: Mustards Grill, Rutherford Grill, Cindy's Backstreet, Brix......and many, many more.

Lastly, take some time and walk the 3 blocks or so of St Helena. The St Helena Olive Oil Co is always a must.....plus, I just remembered that damombo had suggested to me that we tour Round Pond & do their olive oil tasting (this is on our to-do list later this year). Check out their website www.roundpond.com they are located in Rutherford.

That's it for me. Y'all will have fun no matter what your final itinerary winds up being!

IP: 99.18.70.50

Poohh66
Member
posted 01-31-2011 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poohh66     Edit/Delete Message
one of these days... when I get to know you all a little better

Yes, I did realize the price tag associated with La Toque my husband actually wanted to try French Laundry but we figured it was way over-rated.... after some researched we decided to give La Toque a try, I will have to report and let you know what we think. Celadon is certainly another one that we will definitely be trying.

Looking forward to YOUR recommendations
thanks

IP: 173.168.214.16

damombo
Member
posted 01-31-2011 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for damombo   Click Here to Email damombo     Edit/Delete Message
Wow - don't log in for a couple of days and miss out on all sorts of conversation..

Welcome Poohh66!
one of these days you'll tell us how you got that username

Looks like Hawkeye has laid out a great itinerary for you. And don't be intimidated by his comment about the number of wineries he can hit in a day - he is a super wineaux! If this is a first time visit or a near first time visit, take it as slow as you need to and just plan to return - again, and again, and again...

As to restaurants - in Healdsburg, we really enjoyed A Divine Affair: simply delicious and the staff and chef were delightful. In Napa, Celedon never disappoints. I see that you have reservations at La Toque - I'm assuming that you did your research and know that you'll be spending around $300 for dinner for two? I'm probably one of the minority when it comes to La Toque. We went once, a year ago, and I was disappointed in the experience. The food was nothing outstanding. The one bright spot was the sommelier - he was very entertaining and knowledgable. But, as with wine, we all have our different tastes, so hopefully you will have a fabulous time there.

I'll be back later with more suggestions - gotta go open some wine now.

[This message has been edited by damombo (edited 01-31-2011).]

IP: 98.198.194.134

Hawkeye
Member
posted 01-31-2011 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Yesilovewine . . . As I get older, I have had to cut down on the number of wineries I visit in a day from 15-20 to 10-12. Getting old sucks.

IP: 68.169.189.111

yesilovewine
Member
posted 01-31-2011 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Hawkeye,you are funny.
I concede that there are many good to great wines made in Napa!!!My goodness- we "cut our red wine teeth" on Napa Cabs, and I will gladly drink one any time, still.
We just found that Sonoma County wines seem to suit our palates better, and so we are trying to "taste 'em all" while we are here in the west. At one point we were looking to see what we really drank and Sonoma was 2-to-1 on our wine rack! And that is what started the whole thing.
Its true that Sonoma County is a huge area to cover and the wineries are really spread out -which can cut into valuable tasting time!- but we actually find that to be part of the charm. And since I really do use the Harvest Fair as a tool that also plays into the Sonoma thing.
Perhaps it should be said that when we went to Napa early in our days of wine country visits, it always reminded me of going to Myrtle Beach and travelling "the Strip" and that was something of a turnoff. Now that we know more about wineries outside that corridor, I'm sure we could enjoy it more. But first, we have to taste all of Sonoma!

IP: 98.232.221.183

Hawkeye
Member
posted 01-31-2011 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
BUT yesilovewine, you are missing so many tremendous wines. I would like to say that my "Bucket List" contained a visit to all wineries in Napa and Sonoma, but that would just be dreaming. I am not sure that I have that many trips left in me. I will visit those that I can and revisit some I really like and be satisfied. My problem with Sonoma, except for the Healdsburg area, is that the wineries are so far apart. I guess that could be a good thing too, giving your system a little time to take care of the previous wines before adding more. When I win the lottery, I will invite you all out to my new place and we will take a limo around tasting. :-) Cheers

IP: 68.169.189.111

yesilovewine
Member
posted 01-31-2011 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
But Hawkeye...you are doing such a great job!!!
Sorry, I just had to say that. You always do a great job.
Sorry Pooh, I smart off a lot over here on Napa but really I don't go there; we are a Sonoma family.

IP: 98.232.221.183

Hawkeye
Member
posted 01-31-2011 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
If your day at Raymond is your third day, just move day three to day four and day four to day 3. Then you can rearrange to fit in Raymond and Beringer.

If it is another day, just switch with the 4th day.

We had a bottle of 2002 Raymond Napa Valley Reserve Cab the other night that was just pretty good. I looked on their website and the same wine is selling today for $35.00. If it is anything like the one we had, you are in for a treat at a great price.

Alright, the rest of you boarder's chip in here.

[This message has been edited by Hawkeye (edited 01-31-2011).]

IP: 68.169.189.111

Hawkeye
Member
posted 01-31-2011 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Wine Trip Day 4 - You could spend the whole day in Yountville tasting. There are several excellent wineries. Here are a few suggestions.

Winery 1 - Jessup Cellars, downtown Yountville. Excellent variety of wines. I would suggest calling for a private tasting.

Winery 2 - Girard Cellars, downtown Yountville. Excellent variety of wines and a very pretty tasting room. I would suggest that you call for an appointment for their food and wine pairing and ask for Eric to be your host. Tell him the guy from Tennessee sent you. For me, this one is a must.

Next wineries. There are several tasting rooms in downtown Yountville that can provide nice experiences. Or, if you prefer, branch out on your own. Just remember this, there was nothing wrong with the wineries you had on your schedule, we just think you may find these suggested ones more to your liking. All but one we have visited (Stryker) and have always had a great experience.

When you return, please sign on to the board and tell us what you liked and disliked. Just remember, wine is a personal taste and we all may not like the same things.

IP: 68.169.189.111

Poohh66
Member
posted 01-31-2011 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poohh66     Edit/Delete Message
awesome....

please keep in mind that we already have made reservations and paid for the Raymond Valentine's Dinner at 5:30 and have a tasting tour at Bringer at 11:00 that same day

can you work around this hee hee, i know, i am really pushing it here

i am loving all your other suggestions and I am finding myself rearranging what i thought i had
thanks

[This message has been edited by Poohh66 (edited 01-31-2011).]

IP: 173.168.214.16

Hawkeye
Member
posted 01-31-2011 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Day 3 - Healdsburg area. Driver over to Healdsburg by either driving up to Calistoga and go over the mountain, which is a pretty drive, or go over to Sonoma and up Hwy 101. THIS IS ZINFANDEL COUNTRY.

Winery 1 - Wilson Winery on Dry Creek Road. A must stop for award winning Zins. No appt needed.

Winery 2 - Mauritson Vineyards on Dry Creek Road. Again, award winning Zins. Our favorites are the Rockpile Vineyard Zins. Ask if they are pouring the Rockpile flight. No appt needed.

Back th Healdsburg for lunch. Many small restaurants around the square.

Winery 3 - Just off the Healdsburg square is the Williamson Tasting Room. Very diverse offering. They provide a wine and food pairing tasting and it is FREE. A must stop. No appt needed.

Winery 4 - I would head back toward Calistoga on the Alexander Valley Road and Stop at Stryker Winery. We have not tasted here, but will in March. Several on this Board speak very highly about their zins. No appt needed.

Winery 5 - For the view if nothing else, I would stop at Hannah Vineyards on the Alexander Valley Road.

Winery 6 - If you can get there in time, in my opinion, a must stop is Bennett Lane Winery on the north edge of Calistoga. You will go right past it on your left on Hwy 128. Excellent Cab and great blend for a reasonable price. No appt needed.

If it is close to dinner time, there are several good restaurants in Calistoga, or on Hwy 29 back toward Napa. I guess I should have put this on the Sonoma board, but since you are staying in Napa, I guess this is okay.

[This message has been edited by Hawkeye (edited 01-31-2011).]

IP: 68.169.189.111

Hawkeye
Member
posted 01-31-2011 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Itinerary, Day 2 - Go north on Hwy 29 and we will work our way back south.

Winery 1 - Chase Family Cellars -just on the south edge of St. Helena, turn left at the Ford dealer on Sulpher Springs Road. This is one of those small wineries that make you feel like family. Apt. needed. Ask for Jeff Blaum, winery manager to be your host. Tell Jeff the guy from Tennessee sent you. You will probably walk out into one of the most famous Zin vineyards in the Napa Valley, the Hayne Vineyard with 100+ year old vines. Fabulous Zins. Chase does not show up on my map.

Winery 2 - Go on north a short distance to Merryvale Winery on your right. This is one of the larger wineries you will visit. Check their website to see if they have any special tastings going on. Nice shopping area also.

Go across the street to Tra Vigne Pizza for lunch.

Winery 3 - You could stop at Hall Winery which is on your list. They have a pretty tasting room. The winery is owned by Kathryn Hall, a former ambassador to Austria. They do have some good Cabs.No appt needed.

Winery 4 - Provenance Winery. No appt needed. In addition to their Cabs and Merlot, they have a nice array of wines. A little on the higher end.

Winery 5 - Sawyer Cellars. A small winery producing a Cab, Merlot, Meritage and a Sav Blanc. They are probably known best for their Merlot which is often referred to as a Cab drinkers Merlot. Appt needed.

If you have time, you could stop at Trefethen on the north edge of Napa. Nice tasting room.

[This message has been edited by Hawkeye (edited 01-31-2011).]

IP: 68.169.189.111

Hawkeye
Member
posted 01-31-2011 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Poohh66, now that we have some basic information, we can make a more intelligent suggested itinerary. First, go to NapaValley.com click on "Visitor Information" then click on "Printable Winery Map" on the left side toward the bottom. With this map, you will be able to follow my suggestions. The same for Sonoma.com You may need a magnifying glass. :-)

When you get to Napa, pick up a copy of one of the local magazines and you will find a large printed map. Also, if you go to WineRoad.com and on the right side, there is a place to click to get a free map of the Healdsburg area, and it is mailed free. If you do it soon, you may even have it prior to your trip.

Okay, here are my suggestions. I am going to give 5 suggestions per day, and if you want more, you can "just stop in".

DAY 1 - Drive north on the Silverado Trail, then we will head back south.

Winery 1 - Baldacci Vineyards - No appt needed - Excellent Cabs - try their Diamond Mountain Cab

Winery 2 - Cliff Lede - Appt needed. Their Staggs Leap Cab is usually terrific.

Soda Canyon Deli to pick up lunch

Winery 3 - Stop at either Chimney Rock or Signorello - No appt needed.

Winery 4 - Robert Biale Winery - Cut across Oak Knoll road and turn left on Big Ranch Road. Go to Biale's address which will be on your left. Appt needed. Ask for Kandice to be your pourer, she is terrific. They have outstanding Zins. Tell her the guy from Tennessee sent you.

Winery 5 - Does not show up on your map. Suhr Luchtel Cellars just back the opposite way from Biale. Appt needed. You will probably taste in the dining room of the winery home. Probably the most diverse offering of the day. Normally, one of the owners will pour for you.

Most of these wineries have more than Cabs, usually a Chard or a Sav Blanc, Merlot, Zin, etc. But remember, Napa is a BIG Cab area.

Back to the Marriott to sober up for dinner. I would ask the concierge for dinner suggestions. They are pretty knowledgeable at the Marriott. By the way, Brix is not getting very good reviews lately.

Just remember, others on this Board may have other suggestions which may be just as good. We all have our favorites.

IP: 68.169.189.111

Poohh66
Member
posted 01-30-2011 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poohh66     Edit/Delete Message
Thursday ~Fly into Sacramento thurs-drive to Napa Marriott Resort and Spa

Friday -Hoping to tour HALL, JOSEPH PHELP and WHITEHALL (no dinner plans yet, maybe Brinx)

Saturday -Tour/Tasting at BERINGER (AM) and RAYMOND (PM) dinner/pairing

Sunday -early start to PRIDE MOUNTAIN, JORDAN and hoping to get to SIMI, SEGHESIO and RODNEY STRONG (no dinner reservations)

Monday -STAGS LEAP, SILVER OAK, dinner reservations at LaToque

Tuesday- ARTESA, NICHOLSON RANCH

Suggestions, recommendations..... all appreciated and welcomed, are we missing a "must see"

IP: 173.168.214.16

All times are ET (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | winecountry.com | Privacy Statement

copyright Winecountry.Com

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.45c

1. Acceptance of Terms of Usage
Freerun Technologies provides a collection of online resources, including website/portals, bulletin boards and email services, (hereafter referred to as "the Service") subject to the following Terms of Use ("Terms"), which may be updated by Freerun Technologies from time to time. By using the Service in any way, you are agreeing to comply with these Terms.

2. Content
All postings, messages, text, or other material posted on, transmitted through, or linked from the Service, are the sole responsibility of the entity from whom the Content originated. Freerun Technologies shall have the right (but not the obligation) in its sole discretion to refuse or delete any Content that is available via the Service, for any reason.