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damombo
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posted 10-02-2013 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for damombo   Click Here to Email damombo     Edit/Delete Message
oh great - we are being bombarded by spammers who really don't care about wine

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yesilovewine
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posted 04-29-2013 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
I KNOW!!! What a great keepsake, huh? I gather that used to be pretty standard, but has gone by the wayside with the "more sophisticated" visitors in the area now.

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Bubba
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posted 04-29-2013 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bubba     Edit/Delete Message
Yes good times in Silver Oak. Wine is just fantastic! Oh and not to mention -- they gave away wrapped/un-used Silver Oak glasses as part of the $20 tour and tasting.

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yesilovewine
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posted 04-26-2013 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
I was so happy to see that you enjoyed Silver Oak! We had visited in '07 when the rebuilding was in full swing and the tasting room was a temporary outbuilding, and absolutely LOVED our experience. It is so very different than the facility in Geyserville...a complete and utter opposite. We just didn't have time on our last trip, but I'm glad to hear that the fun is still in their hearts there...it really is a great crew.

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Hawkeye
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posted 04-23-2013 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Bubbas,

Thanks for the great report. I have been thinking about visiting Silver Oak but just have not gotten around to it.From your report, I will have to put it on the next itinerary.

-Hawkeye

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damombo
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posted 04-22-2013 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for damombo   Click Here to Email damombo     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like y'all had a wonderful trip! Thanks for the report!

Yeah, there are a couple of places that we keep meaning to get to, and think that we might make it to, and then somehow don't - but there is always the next trip...

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Bubba
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posted 04-22-2013 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bubba     Edit/Delete Message
Hi All, thanks for the tips and advice. Just got back yesterday - and can't wait to get back already. Here is a short summary:

Day 1 - Arrived at SFO around noon and headed to Napa for a quick lunch at Oxbow Market. Just some good Nepoletana pizza at Ca'Momi. Then off to Hendry Winery. It is an old school winery - nothing fancy. We got the 2.5hr tasting and tour, which was hosted by the owner himself, George Hendry. He talked a lot about how his folks started it, cost of making wine, etc. Sample 11 wines - wasn't expecting much but my wife seemed to like the cab so we took that and a PN home- which since it was $100, they waived the $40 fee per person. Then dinner in Bistro Jeanty. Good food and went well with a bottle of Groth cab.

Day 2 - Early start at Silver Oak - did the Tour and Tasting. Was so worth it. For $20 each, they took us around the winery and talked about the history of the place (which got burned down in 2006). The guide was really entertaining and he had a great 'rule' - which was no empty glasses... so he just kept pouring. Had the 2008 Alexandar Valley Cab, 2008 Napa Cab, 2007 Cab and (yes) 2005 cab. Heaven.

We had too much fun and missed our Cakebread appointment so we decided to resched that for the next day. We had 45 mins to kill so made a quick stop to V Sattui to nibble on a cheese and did a tasting- before heading to Joseph Phelps. Enjoyed Joseph Phelps very much - great to taste the Insignia once more. But really enjoyed their Pinot Noir (Freestone- Sonoma)- one of the best I've had. Then off to Hall Rutherford - and yes, great to be tasting some great wines under Swarovski crystals. Dinner in Celadon - capped the evening.

Day 3 - Domaine Carneros for the tour and tasting. Had their full selection of Pinots and Sparkling wines - lasted 90 mins. So well worth the $30 fee. Then off to Cakebread - just love their Chard big time. Short stop in Grgich for their Chard as well - but was pleasantly surprised with their Cabs. Capped the winery tour at Peju - which we really enjoyed. $20 tasting - waived if you buy $35 worth of wine. Must be our lucky day since though the tasting is typically for four standard wines (cab, merlot, sauv blanc, white blend)- but for some reason, made good conversation with the server and ended up having nice pours of reserve cab sauv, reserve cab franc (both of which are $115 bottles) and the estate cab ($225 a bottle)- as well as a 93pt Syrah. Smiles.
Dinner at Bottega with a bottle of Round Pond Cab to wrap it off.

Day 4 - was hoping to squeeze in Etude or Artesa for Pinot on the way back to SFO - but was too tight so we went straight back.

damombo, we wanted to go to Frog's Leap but just didn't have the time so maybe next ime out.

Can't wait for the next adventure.


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damombo
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posted 04-08-2013 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for damombo   Click Here to Email damombo     Edit/Delete Message
We often bring a bottle with us - never had a problem. Just check the restaurant's website or call and inquire about the corkage fee, so you are prepared.

And I do think it's a good idea to "stretch" the liver ahead of time - get in shape for the event, so to speak

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Bubba
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posted 04-08-2013 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bubba     Edit/Delete Message
Nice, damombo - twice a year does sound much better. Been misbehaving lately, opening a bottle of wine each night since last week - warming up to the Napa trip.

Probably not the right forum to ask but I'll ask anyway - hope you guys don't mind... Do you guys typically bring your wine to dinner? Seems the restaurants generally are ok with this as long as you pay corkage - which am fine doing, considering some of the wines I'd probably like to have are either not in the wine list or will cost much more than if I bought it from the winery and pay the fee. Having dinner in Bistro Jeanty, Celadon and Bottega. Just wondering if no big deal to bring wine in when they have quite a list arleady.

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damombo
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posted 04-05-2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for damombo   Click Here to Email damombo     Edit/Delete Message
Annual? Come on, Bubba! Twice a year is what you need to shoot for

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Bubba
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posted 04-04-2013 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bubba     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks y'all. So many great suggestions - so little time. May have to make this an annual ritual .... big thanks!

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Hawkeye
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posted 04-04-2013 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Bubba,

I noticed that you were having dinner one or two nights in Yountville. Why not take a whole or half day at the tasting rooms in Yountville? You have HOpe & Grace, Cornerstone, Jessup, Ma(i)sonry, Girard and a host of others. You can walk to all of these so no driving needed. I believe Girard is open late so you can make it your last stop.

A good place for lunch in Yountville is Pacific Blues, which is in the middle of the tasting rooms.

If you need more recommendations, just let us know.

-Hawkeye

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bigsemi
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posted 04-04-2013 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigsemi   Click Here to Email bigsemi     Edit/Delete Message
Del ditto is a lot of fun too with a ton of great wine, cabs and PN's. We like the older feel of the Napa site, but the St. Helena site is very nice as and much newer in feel, same wines at either site.

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bigsemi
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posted 04-04-2013 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigsemi   Click Here to Email bigsemi     Edit/Delete Message
Domain Carneros has great sparklers and a couple very nice pinots as well. We like to make a lunch out of it. Between 2 different tastings you can cover all the wines they have available, and then we get a meat and cheese platter to go with it. Not many better views then sitting in the terrace at DC. Most of the good Pinot is on the Sonoma side of the valley.

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damombo
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posted 04-04-2013 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for damombo   Click Here to Email damombo     Edit/Delete Message
Fellow Houstonian!! Woohoo!!

We haven't visited any of those three, but looking at google maps, here is my suggestion (so that you have the fun and experience of a mountain drive )

Visit Hendry, then continue up Redwood Drive to Hess (fascinating art work at their tasting room and many good wines). Leave Hess via Mt. Veeder road and enjoy the curves and views, continuing onto Oakville Grade and to the valley floor. Then over to Groth. Head to Frog's Leap via Silverado Trail. That would be the most scenic route, in my opinion (which, as Hawkeye says, is worth what you've paid for it).

Then come back and tell us about those wineries - I've been meaning to go to Frog's Leap, but it never quite makes it into the itinerary.

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OMRebel
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posted 04-03-2013 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OMRebel   Click Here to Email OMRebel     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Bubba. I would highly recommend
Schramsberg for a sparkling wine tour/tasting. It was a wonderful experience. Here is their website: http://www.schramsberg.com/.

Have a fun trip.

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Bubba
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posted 04-03-2013 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bubba     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Folks! Thanks for the feedback.

Took off Castello and Kuleto from the original list. Though basis damombo's feedback, may see if there is an opportunity to fit that in. By the way, am from Houston too

Purpose of Domaine Carneros is to try some bubblies and take a tour as well. May just squeeze that in the morning of the 21st, prior to driving back to SFO.

Just finished booking my April 19 wineries: Silver Oak, Cakebread, Josehph Phelps and Hall - Rutherford.

Still working on the plan for the 20th. Don't mind driving out for the first stop and just visit wineries around that area - so welcome any suggetions.

By the way, any feedback on Hendry, Frog's Leap and Groth?


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damombo
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posted 04-03-2013 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for damombo   Click Here to Email damombo     Edit/Delete Message
Hello all!

We have visited Kuleto and the tour of the property is pretty phenomenal, view-wise. We were not impressed with the wines, but the drive up to the property and the walk around the property were very impressive. I'd like to point out that we are from flat, flat Houston, so mountains and curvy roads are a treat for us
What time is your appointment at Hall Rutherford? It looks like its about 15 minutes between Kuleto and Hall Rutherford...

Is Domaine Carneros on the list because of the sparkling wines or because you like their Pinots? We aren't fans of Pinots, so I'm not very familiar with who might have good ones, although we did find that Surh Luchtel had some Pinots we enjoyed. Anyway, the reason I ask is because the trek from Domaine Carneros to Kuleto would be about 40 minutes, depending on traffic. Maybe leave Domaine Carneros for the 20th for a stop before heading to SFO?

Castello di Amorosa was a fun and interesting tour, but again, not a fan of the wines. The tour guide was terrific and we enjoyed the experience - especially since we haven't been to Europe. It was a bit of Italy brought to us

Hey Carjeff - have a great run!

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carjeff
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posted 04-03-2013 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carjeff   Click Here to Email carjeff     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Bubba,

I would second Hawkeye's opinion that you are driving all over the place. Look at the map he mentioned and plan your trip accordingly. Unless you really want to visit them, I would omit Kuleto and Castello Di Amorosa, due to the driving distance. Since you enjoy Pinots, I would stop somewhere in Carneros before/after Domaine Carneros (Etude, Acacia, Adastra, Saintsbury). Perhaps spend Day 1 in Carneros for Sparkling and Pinots, and possibly do a cab house in Oakville (Silver Oak) or Stags Leap, then Day 2 for your cabs in Rutherford.

As Hawkeye also mentioned try to find a few places that you aren't familiar with.

We will probably pass by you on Sat, since we will be landing at SFO around noon. Enjoy your trip.

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Bubba
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posted 04-02-2013 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bubba     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Hawkeye!

Great point on being smart about the wineries we pick so we don't spend too much time driving. We are staying at the Westin Verasa, McKinney St., Napa area; and having dinner at St. Helena (8pm) and Yountville (730pm) on April 18 and 19, respectively.

Guess we chose the wineries below since those were some of our fav cabs (Silver Oak, Joseph Phelps, Cakebread, etc.). But always willing to try other good ones - both from a wine-tasting and touring perspective. Open of any suggestions you may have for both days.

Many Thanks!

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Hawkeye
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posted 04-02-2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkeye   Click Here to Email Hawkeye     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Bubba,

Your itinerary seems to be all over the place and you will spend most of your time driving. First, where are you planning to stay? That would help to recommend some wineries to visit. If you are staying in Napa, that would be a whole lot of wineries different that if you are staying in Calistoga.

Here is a map that may help you. The wineries with a black circle are open to the public, the triangle ones need reservations.
http://napavalley.com/visitorsinfo/Napa_Valley_Winery_Map.pdf

We always suggest that you begin the day at 10:00 with an winery reservation, then add a "walk in" for a second one in the morning. Then we make a reservation for about 1:30, which should give you time for lunch, then you will have time for a couple "walk ins" in the afternoon.

Answer that question and then maybe I can make some suggestions. I would suggest, however, that you visit wineries that you cannot purchase their wines in your area.

-Hawkeye

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Bubba
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posted 04-02-2013 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bubba     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there. My wife and I are planning our second visit to Napa. It's been five years since we last went and quite excited! Wnated to get any advice on wineries to visit.

We like Big Cabs mainly (followed by Pinot Noirs and would not mind a visit to a Sparkling Wine house as well).

Our initial thoughts were:

April 18:
Domaine Carneros
Kuleto - heard this is quite a trek and wines not that good but seems to have quite a review.
Hall Rutherford
Cakebread

April 19:
Castello di Amarosa
Frogs Leap
Joseph Phelps
Silver Oak

April 20:
TBD? - Need to leave Napa for SFO around noon.

We figure, we'd like to see some nice wineries for tours but doesn't have to be a wine tour for each of them.

Grateful for any advice/feedback on our list or suggestions to replace/add. Thanks.

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