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yesilovewine
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posted 03-14-2012 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Well I hope you have good weather...sounds like the west coast isn't at its best right now.
Do try this wine industry network site for help. I think it may be your best resource.
Adler Fels winery in Sonoma County also may be able to work with you. They actually sell personalized wines, so you could "build" your own label!
Good luck, and do let us hear about your experience when you are done.

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Romeolo888
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posted 03-14-2012 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeolo888   Click Here to Email Romeolo888     Edit/Delete Message
thank you,

i am looking to come to california on sunday or monday.

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yesilovewine
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posted 03-13-2012 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Ro'
I have found another potential resource for your. try this: www.wineindustrynetwork.com and see if you can get some appropriate information there.

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yesilovewine
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posted 03-06-2012 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Well it sounds like you have a good plan- flexible but with some goals to work toward.
I'll continue checking in, if you think of a question, just ask...
good luck

And by the way, I can guarantee that in Sonoma County you definitley will meet some very nice people.

[This message has been edited by yesilovewine (edited 03-09-2012).]

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Romeolo888
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posted 03-06-2012 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeolo888   Click Here to Email Romeolo888     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,

Yes the vinters list require me to pay 2500 US dollars to have privileges of there private trade list and other benefits.

but being a company that is just starting up, that's just not viable.

Regarding the visit list, I was marking down all the suggestions you made, als hawkeyes to. So when I arrive in Newyork, I will book B&B, hotels, and just to the regions suggested. Its not going to be fixed, I will be flexible. Got my business cards on the ready. so hopefully will meet some nice people.


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yesilovewine
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posted 03-06-2012 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ro'
I'm back. On our trip I had the opportunity to talk to a couple of winery vendors and it sounds like the best way for you to look into the interest in your market will be to talk directly to wineries that interest you...I guess that the vintner associations don't have the kind of insights that I suspected; sorry for the poor advice- I hope it didn't waste too much of your time.
How are you doing with your visit-list?

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Romeolo888
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posted 02-28-2012 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeolo888   Click Here to Email Romeolo888     Edit/Delete Message
yesilovewine

thank you for your lovely input.

I am weighing up the suggestions and figuring out the best way to visit the wineries suggested

Its challenging, but I will conquer.

Speak to you soon when you get back.

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yesilovewine
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posted 02-27-2012 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi again.
Before I lose the computer for the week, I wanted to get back to you with some more thoughts.

Given that you are unfamiliar with the area and may have difficulty fully grasping the size of Sonoma County, I think it would be to your benefit to hire one of the agencies that provides a driver for your vehicle while you are on your visits to the wineries. (The two I've heard the most about are Bee Driven and Lexacon, but I have no personal experience with either.) That way you can set an itinerary with the help of a local person who knows how long it takes to get from place to place and thus be assured that you will not be late for or miss appointments, but still have transportation to get to dinner or other outings when your business day is through. Its so easy to become fully engaged in the interaction with the winemakers and lose track of time that I think it would help to have an assistant of sorts to help you develop a realistic plan for visiting. (Even though it is not necessary to make appointments for general tastings, I presume that you are intending to since this trip appears to be for business purposes.)

I also thought about how to manage just a few days to explore the widest scope of Sonoma County wineries, and I need to amend my previous suggested winery list. You are specifically interested in "easy to drink" red wines and sparkling wine I believe, and I threw in a few that are probably bolder than you are interested in persuing.

So, starting from the lower Sonoma County regions, I would use one day to visit Sonoma Valley and the Carneros district. This is where the pinot noir and chardonnay grapes grow the best and are the most popular. For this area, given only 1 day and searching for "mild" reds and sparkling wine, I would choose Cline, St. Francis, Roessler Cellars, Gloria Ferrer, Imagery and Benzinger. Cline focuses on Rhone wines, St. Francis is larger and has a wide variety of wines, Roessler offers a wide range of pinot noir, Ferrer is a sparkling wine vendor, Imagery offers a number of unusual wines and has great wine label art, and Benzinger is a biodynamic winery that has a good tour.

The next day I would visit the Russian River wineries and include Korbel as a sparkling wine vendor, Sunce ( because they offer an array of more unusual wines like barbera and malbec), Dutton-Goldfield for their pinot noir and chardonnay, Trecini ( actually in Santa Rosa) for their wonderful Merlot and lighter style Cabernet, and Paradise Ridge ( either facility will do but the one in Santa Rosa has the best views) because I think they make a very drinkable Cab and a good zinfandel- they are "big" wines, but still approachable in my opinion.

The next day would focus on the Dry Creek and Alexander Valley areas- huge territory to cover in a day, but choosing carefully I suggest the following: Dry Creek Vineyard, for their well rounded red blends and the consistently excellent Fume Blanc; Wilson, for their very approachable zinfandels as well as access to the other wineries in their consortium ( Mazzocco, Armida, Matrix, Jaxon Keys, Soda Rock and DeLormier); Robert Young, for their Cabernet; Bill Frick, for his Rhone wines ( especially the Carignagne and Grenache Blanc); Coppola, because they have a broad range of wines and between the Napa and Sonoma facilities they are probably already set up for international sales...besides that who wouldn't want to go look at his movie memorabilia? And they have an on site restaurant there which would make a good break in your day.

This list incorprates a mix of big- and small- production wineries and I think that it offers a pretty wide variety of wines that you could taste. Its driven soley by my own experience and I can assure you that there are as many opinions about the best places for your needs as there are folks who post here. Hopefully others will weigh in with their opinions so you won't have only my slanted point of view to work from!!
I do love Sonoma wines with all my heart but I'm no wine expert I can assure you, so don't put too much stock in my thoughts. As Hawkeye is prone to say- its just one person's opinion and may be worth what you paid for it!

Regarding where to stay, again, given your situation I think that Santa Rosa would be a good choice; rates are usually cheaper, and its centrally located in the county for access to the major wine areas. If you stay near Railroad Square there are lots of good restaurants close at hand. It offers nothing in the way of "wine country ambience", but with the needs you expressed it would work just fine.

I'll be without a computer until next week, but I'll check back when I can.

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yesilovewine
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posted 02-25-2012 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yesilovewine     Edit/Delete Message
Well Hello there! So glad you were willing to jump over here...I feel funny touting Sonoma on the Napa board, though folks don't really seem to mind too much.

Glad that you are going to have a car- it will make things much easier for you as Sonoma County is very much larger than Napa Valley.

Regarding accomodations and cost: that can vary greatly depending on the events that may be going on. It is not uncommon for rates to jump by 50-100% for popular event periods and its not unheard of to be more than that. Your price range will be difficult in the areas that are considered "Wine Country", the ones with the quaint, quintessential ambience of a wine region, but if you are willing to stay in Santa Rosa you may find something. Santa Rosa is NOT a quaint village like Healdsburg or Sonoma, it is the seat of the county government and therefore is the most urban. But that also means it has the most rooms to sell and the greatest price range. I would look there first. You might also try to explore some of the wine travel sites as there subscribers often offer some good deals.
If you are familiar with the Priceline website/system, I know that the Doubletree hotel in Petaluma frequently offers discounted rooms and I have friends who have gotten a room for as little as $49! They were totally happy with their room, but found Petaluma to be a little out of the way for visiting the wineries in the northern part of the county.


As for red wines...oooh there are so many good ones in Sonoma County. I will make suggestions beginning in the south ( Sonoma Valley) and move northward...each winery will have multiple wines in their repertoire so I'll suggest places that I know have a good variety of wines ( reds and whites) or good examples of a specific wine. If you have particular varietals in mind, you may want to look at the results from the Harvest Fair competition to get an idea of which wines the "true experts" feel are the best.
Sonoma Valley- St. Francis ( wide range of offerings), Ledson (huge production of over 70 wines), Ravenswood( excellent zinfandel), Roessler Cellars ( pinot noir and chardonnay experts), Charles Creek ( good red blends and a delicious chocolate-infused port), Imagery ( unusual varietals and very interesting tasting room), Paradise Ridge ( they have 2 tasting rooms and either will be fine for trying their wines).
Russian River area- DeLoach ( used to be a very good zinfandel producer now gone to pinots), Iron HOrse ( famous for their sparkling wine, but its very acidic in my opinion and may be too harsh for the Chinese palate they also make still chardonnay), Korbel ( another sparkling winery with a good deli and tour), Harvest Moon ( delicious zinfandel and good CAbernet as well- these are wines to hold a bit before drinking),Trecini ( located in Santa Rosa, their Merlot is amazing as is their Sauvignon Blanc).
Dry Creek- Armida, Mazzocco, Mauritson, Wilson( all great zinfandel producers), Passalaqua ( nice Primotivo and Cab), Dutcher Crossing ( excellent Cab and zinfandel from Maple Vineyard- extraordinary), Bella (great wines all around) and I could name about 20 other worthy of visiting in this area as its my favorite.
Alexander Valley- Hawkes ( Cabernet), Stryker Sonoma( Cabs and zin), Alexander Valley Vineyard ( known for zin but have other good wines, too including a very good viognier).
Also Seghesio, Williamson and Stephen and Walker which are all in the town of Healdsburg have wines that we like very much.
Some of these places make really "big" wines which may be too bold for your flavor profile. If you find these suggestions to be too bold, explore some of the wineries that focus on the Rhone grapes, like Cline (in the Carneros region of Sonoma), Benzinger ( Sonoma Valley), Bill Frick ( Dry Creek),Nicholson Ranch (Carneros), Unti ( Dry Creek) and Schug( Carneros).

To get oriented to the area, go to www.wineroad.com and view their regional maps. They will help you locate the wineries that are not in Sonoma Valley or Carneros. For those areas, I think that www.sonomacounty.com will have maps. For that matter, winecountry.com may have good ones now, too. But you will most definitely need to have good maps to do your planning.
This is a lot to digest at once, so read through it and let me know if I've given too much to handle.
I'm going to be without a computer for a week or so after Monday, so I'm trying to cram in everything I can think of while I am sure to have access!

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Romeolo888
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posted 02-25-2012 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeolo888   Click Here to Email Romeolo888     Edit/Delete Message
CHina loves red wine, and its not going to change, i would be happy if you directed me to the smooth drinking red wineries. I think champayne would be good to taste to.

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Romeolo888
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posted 02-25-2012 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeolo888   Click Here to Email Romeolo888     Edit/Delete Message
Hi buddy, here I am!! As mentioned in the Napa section, I should be driving a car.

so what would the best thing to do here?

are their any accommodation from the price of $60-$100. I am not looking for anything special, just a place to kip, and have internet connection.

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